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We win Gov’s Veto on Senate 789. Now it is Senate 34.

February 23rd, 2015 | Posted by admin in Uncategorized - (0 Comments)

About 2 weeks ago PPGV was part of an effort to defeat Senate Bill 789 that would allow some persons with protective orders against them to obtain a concealed gun permit. Governor Snyder vetoed that bill and made the New York Times and other news while doing it!
Now we are facing a new bill- SB 34. This bill lacks the domestic violence abuser problem, but still poses a public danger according to Daniel Webster MD, a national expert from Johns Hopkins.
The bill’s sponsors say it streamlines the process to a concealed carry permit. To more critical eyes it omits the county gun board made up of sheriff, prosecutor, and others. Instead of the sheriff doing a background check that would be done by the state police. Local eyes would be removed and the process slightly shortened and made less in cost $90 down from $110. But the state police have said it would take about 50 of their partrol officers and $8 million. They originally opposed it.
Michigan has 450,000 CPLs now! And most recently 87, 000 applications a year of which 3-4% were denies and about 250 were denied by local boards. But, these were important denials according to Dr. Webster.
“The best research on the topic of shall issue vs. discretionary concealed carry laws shows evidence that no discretion shall issue laws lead to more gun violence. There is also research showing that many individuals who are not prohibited from possessing guns to keep in their home – legal gun owners – are not so law abiding and most objective people and public safety officials would look at their backgrounds and conclude that it’s too risky for the person to be allowed to carry a concealed loaded firearm outside of their homes. Promoters of nondiscretionary concealed gun policies or no restrictions on concealed carry try to perpetuate a myth that all legal gun owners are God-fearing, rock-solid individuals who are poised to be heroes to take down the next person who attempts a mass shooting or predatory criminals lurking among us. I can try to counter that myth with some facts.
But what would be most effective is for someone on the local boards to give examples of people who they denied a carry permit – prior arrests, drunk driving violations, restraining orders, calls to police at their residences.”
Dr. Webster will voice his concern, but may well not be asked. This week has been a busy one this fast tracking senate action. Moms Demand Action is concerned as are we at PPGV. We will likely write a letter to be read on the Senate floor prior to the vote. It looks like that may not succeed, but clearly this bill creates problems and I think should voice our concern.

Letter to Mi. Senate on SB34

February 5th, 2015 | Posted by in Uncategorized - (0 Comments)

Dear Senators,

Thank you for hearing our plea. I am a co-leader of a group of 220 physicians with a mission to reduce gun violence. Gun violence is a public health epidemic with a yearly toll of 30,000 deaths and 70,000 injuries.

Removing discretionary authority from local law enforcement will allow dangerous people to obtain concealed pistol licenses (CPLs.) Physicians are often asked to identify persons who they think are a danger and should not have a gun. Michigan’s current system does just that. Our local concealed weapons licensing boards made up of sheriff, state police and prosecutors review applicants and can deny a problem person a license. Present law states “If the concealed weapon licensing board determines by clear and convincing evidence based on specific facts that the applicant poses a danger to the applicant or to any other person,” it has the authority to decline the application. This authority is important. It saves lives.

SB 34 will abolish county concealed weapon licensing boards and transfer their duties to county clerks, the courts, and the Michigan State Police (MSP). The new licensing entities will not retain any discretionary authority. Under SB 34, Michigan will become a “no discretion, shall issue” state. Proponents of the change argue that we can streamline the process, but who would want to arm someone that police and prosecutors would refuse? Local authorities know their people and know many of those no one wants to arm.

Michigan’s system works now and denials of CPLs are relatively rare. In 2011-2012, there were over 80,000 CPL applications. Only 255 were denied by the licensing boards. Local law enforcement often knows persons who are not safe to have a CPL. Examples of those denied licenses include former juveniles with serious records, domestic abusers with misdemeanors or no felonies because their victim would not go to court, serious alcoholics and drug abusers who will all be free to obtain a CPL under this new law.

“Shall Issue” states that include Texas. Alabama, Florida, and Indiana have found that there were more felons and other serious offenders given CPLs. For example, the Los Angeles Times looked at Texas and found that between 1995 and 2000; more than 400 criminals – including rapists and armed robbers – had been issued CPL licenses under the state’s permitting law. A similar study by the South Florida Sun-Sentinel found that people licensed to carry guns in the first half of 2006 in Florida included more than 1,400 individuals who had pleaded guilty or no contest to felonies, 216 individuals with outstanding warrants, 128 people with active domestic violence injunctions against them, and six registered sex offenders. And these people were more likely to commit crimes.

More CPLs don’t make you safer. According to a Violence Policy Center analysis of news reports, CPL permit holders have killed at least 14 law enforcement officers and 622 private citizens since May 2007. We
know, too, that removing guns from violent people is dangerous. These facts may be why both the sheriffs and state police opposed this bill at certain stages. We don’t want to lose officers and any violent altercation can lead to the death of our men and women in uniform.

Dr. Daniel Webster, a national expert on gun violence wrote me recently that there is evidence that this change to a “Shall Issue” state will cause more injuries and deaths. Changing our system may expedite licenses, but more people will get hurt or even killed. The local eyes of our current boards are saving lives. And the state police will have to do new clerical duties that may divert their resources. This bill creates a problem that has both health and administrative costs. Please don’t pass SB 34.